I'm Suggesting That We Abolish The Social

Obviously There Are Some Organizations That Go Out On The Street And Say We Want An End To The Capitalist System. But Obviously That Is Not Going To Happen As A Result Of Just Assuming That Stance.

You Can Never Stop And As Older People, We Have To Learn How To Take Leadership From The Youth And I Guess I Would Say That This Is What I'm Attempting To Do Right Now.

I'm Thinking About Some Developments Say In The 80s When The Anti-apartheid Movement Began To Claim More Support And Strength Within The Us. Black Trade Unionists Played A Really Important Role In Developing This Us Anti-apartheid Movement.

I Grew Up In The Southern United States In A City Which At That Time During The Late '40's And Early '50's Was The Most Segregated City In The Country, And In A Sense Learning How To Oppose The Status Quo Was A Question Of Survival.

I Don't Know Whether The Movement Crashed As A Result Of The Overwhelming Character Of The Institutions We Set Out To Change. I Think Repression Had A Lot To Do With The Dismantling Of The Movement And Also The Winning Of Certain Victories Had Something To Do With The Inability Of The Movement To Take Those Victories As The Launching Point For New Goals And Developing New Strategies.