I'm Never Drawing The Object Itself; I'm

I'd Always Wanted To Know The Difference Between A Mark That Was Art And One That Wasn't.

We're Not Living In A School-of-paris World, You Know, And The Things We Really See In America Are Like This. It's Mcdonald's, It's Not Le Corbusier.

I Don't Think Of Form As A Kind Of Architecture. The Architecture Is The Result Of The Forming. It Is The Kinesthetic And Visual Sense Of Position And Wholeness That Puts The Thing Into The Realm Of Art.

In America The Biggest Is The Best.

I Was At Rutgers University, And That Was A Center For Fluxus In A Way. But It Wasn't What I Was Interested In. All Of It Had An Impact - As Did Happenings - Because I Could See That Art Was Changing From Expressionism, Which I Was Doing At The Time, Or Thought I Was Doing. But It Wasn't The Direction I Really Wanted To Go.