With Me, It's Much More A Matter

I Don't Mess Around With My Subconscious

And Also The New Excitement And Variety Of Ways That The Abstract Expressionists Were Applying Paint. You Could Put It On As Though It Were Colored Air And It Would Be Painting.

And All Of This, All These Physical Aspects Of Painting At That Time Excited Me Very Much. You Could Do A Picture In Just Black And White. I Mean All The Things, Whether You're Soliciting Permission Or Not, Do Give You Permission

I Always Have Searched For A Point Of View That A Participant Could Change.

There Was A Whole Language That I Could Never Make Function For Myself In Relationship To Painting, And That Was Attitudes Like Tortured, Struggle, Pain.